captive ntfs

**Rootman** · 01-13-2004, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by guillaumecote

I could be interesting to test captive ntfs knoppix

http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/

Anybody know about remaster version including it?

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I can verify that captive-ntfs DOES work in Knoppix. I installed this from my chroot'ed source, did this command

Code:

/usr/share/lufs/prepmod

The kernel source dir MUST be present. I used the tar ball version rather than deb's. You must also supply a copy of ntfs.sys and ntoskrnl.exe. The captive-ntfs install script will scan your HD's for it or you can just copy them manually to /var/lib/captive.

I then compacted and made the ISO. Booted to it and mounted a NTFS partition. FULL read AND write. Knoppix recognizes the partition at boot and makes a /mnt/hdXX dir for it but you must use the mount syntax from the command line like so:

Code:

mount -t captive-ntfs /dev/hdXX /mnt/hdXX

rather than just the normal

Code:

mount /mnt/hdXX

else it gets mounted by the kernel ntfs module.

Klaus will have to come up with a clever way to obtain these two files at boot, I don't think it's legal for him to send them with the distro.

I do note that performance is very slow. I am remastering under VMWare and found it way faster just to FTP the file from the Knoppix session to my host XP session. Performance may be better in "real" life.

**kelmo** · 01-15-2004, 03:54 AM

In the remaster do your HD desktop icons work or does it complain abount only root mounting NTFS partition as rw?
I have used the captive system once but it came at the expense of the one click partition mounting icons. Can permissions be set to allow users to write?

**ovidiusoft** · 01-15-2004, 10:13 AM

The trick I used in LinuxDefender (ftp://ftp.bitdefender.com/pub/linux/free/LinuxDefender) to mount as user knoppix is this:

Code:

mv /sbin/mount.captive-ntfs /sbin/mount1.captive-ntfs

Then create the file /sbin/mount.captive-ntfs with the contents:

Code:

#!/bin/sh

sudo /sbin/mount1.captive-ntfs $*

I also did this small modification in /sbin/mount.captive line 40:

Code:

$fsname=~s/^mount[.]captive-// or die "Cannot...

becomes

Code:

$fsname=~s/^mount1[.]captive-// or die "Cannot...

I know it's ugly, but it works, and I hope it helps.

Enjoy

**Rootman** · 01-15-2004, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by kelmo

In the remaster do your HD desktop icons work or does it complain abount only root mounting NTFS partition as rw?
I have used the captive system once but it came at the expense of the one click partition mounting icons. Can permissions be set to allow users to write?

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I'm afraid I'm a minimalist troglodite that uses the command line for all my mounting. I've eliminated KDE and Gnome and rely on a pretty stripped Icewm. So alas, no desktop one click mount icons. ;-(

**fishdish** · 04-21-2004, 10:14 PM

I think that captive should have one-click mount icons for KDE at least. They could be easily created from s script file. IT would bring many people to use captive and other opensource ntfs tools instead of commercial software.

The majority of computer users don't mind how the computer works and which OS does it contain, as long as it has enough media, applications and is easy to use and reliable.

One-click mount buttons are common day in commercial ntfs tools such as David or Windows. In captive it would be one day's work to create such icons, and millions of new users.

**arkaine23** · 04-21-2004, 10:38 PM

I just tired using it earlier on a 3.4 cebit remaster. I got the drivers and such from an XP SP1. I'm writing to windows 2000.

I amnually mount with the captive driver, and can write files as root. They appear when I ls -al the mountpoint and I can see they are the correct size.

When I boot back into windows though, the files are not there.