rick,

I appologize for not sharing, I was hoping I could "sweep this one under the carpet", but I guess it's not the dumbest thing I've ever done (sadly enough)....I had the cd in the wrong drive!...there i said it....i needed it in the dvd/cdrom drive, and i had it in the cd-r/rw drive, nice huh? and as for l33+ I have to answer with a little hesitation as i am not sure if you are just messin with me or not....but in case you aren't, it is short for leet, which is short for elite, which is what early hackers referred to themselves/others who were the cream of the crop hackers.