hey thanks for the feedback. i had just finished the "knoppix style' install when i posted but after playing with it, i think the 'debian style' is definitely the way to go. it seems to have the same menu's and stuff, but little things, like when you go to log out it acts just like the CD and shuts down the machine. it did seem to get the language right though because unlike the knx-install, i didn't have to mess with the locale n stuff.