Markus, thanks for the information, first of all.

Pardon if I sound like a noobe on the subject, I am just frustrated about the HD Install issues.

I am running around using the Root - which I have heard is a serious NO NO in Linux/Unix. AND, I am trying to get all my dev's that I used to have in the Live CD, and don't have in the HD Install, running. At least I finally gotten the WinModem to get to the outside world, with a lot of help.

My question, correct me if I am wrong, but permissions would lock a user for using the dev correct? My user "Cuddles" can get to the modem, can dial out, and can even Ping the www.knoppix.net site, it just can't dig www.knoppix.net site, nor can any browser get to a www.[anything] site.

Am I wrong in this thinking, but, it doesn't sound like users can't get to the ttys# devices, they can dial, they can connect, they can ping with the dial out connection, they just can't - lets see if I can use the right term - they can't resolve a "www.knoppix.net" querry into the needed IP address [?] - Is that it?

If you want, I can look at the permissions on the seriel com dev's - but what do I set them to? [newbie here] What should they be? What shouldn't they be? I am learning, slowly, so to check the permissions I do the following, right? ls -l /dev/ttys# ----- right? And if they are wrong, how do I set them? chmod /dev/ttys# [what number]

Thanks for the help, but, I am learning a little here, and trying to help on my side as much as I can. I want to get away from using my Root for access to the outside world, and start using the personallized users that are created for such a thing.
Cuddles