just for everyones info. I havn't given up on knopixkde, i'm just waiting for Knoppix 3.2 to base my remaster on it. Why make a KnoppixKDE if 3.2 has kde3.1 on it? well becasue I want to include all the kde 3.1 apps. Also when kde3.2 cvs starts to become useful i might make a knoppixkde3.2cvs,