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[Henk Poley]

And what about a kernel compile with i2c to run sensor-detect when you install knoppix??

Hmm, that means lm-sensors will be enabled at boot time? Then I know at least one category of users that would dislike that idea. Asus Pundit owners.

The Asus Pundit is a quite silent machine, but running lm-sensors triggers Q-Fan (the automatic fan control) to turn the fan up to it's max, which is quite loud. I'm unsure if other Asus motherboards with Q-Fan also have this deficency.

[sn0wflake]

Please remove the annoying Startrek woman voice at bootup! By deleting the voice entirely, space could be saved

[andymadigan]

Startrek voice:
I think that's kind of cool, and I always use it as an indicator as to whether my snd card is working

ACPI:
Current knoppix version seems to have some troubles with this, if it's done well it would be fine with me (I haven't been able to use knoppix recently because ACPI doesn't work right on my machine (or rather, it works sometimes but not always). But the HD installer DEFINITELY should be improved. There's nothing else out there with this many installed programs included, not to mention hardware support.

XFCE:
From what I 've seen of XFCE, it has no desktop icons; maybe it's just an ugly habit of mine as a Windows user, but I like my desktop. Also, the file manager I used with XFCE was terrible, I like icon views, not list views. Note: I used Morphix LightGUI. If XFCE had a desktop and a better filemanager, I'd go for it.

[tearinghairout]

My vote is to replace the startrek voice for shutdown with the bit in the movie "Dark City" where the alien says in his ominous and forbidding voice "Shut it down... Shut it down Forever".

[quadratic]

acpi = bad experience for many.
why not just leave it as users passing it specifically.

What impressed me most on knoppix is it worked 1st time. Sure Im an experienced linux user and my next step would have been to turn off acpi BUT many noobies might not.

The current situation sucks for many laptop users since on many laptops the only way to enable some of the hardware is to turn on ACPI. What I personally would like is an option to choose either APM or ACPI at boot time. At least with the current 2.4.x kernels I think that would require two kernel images instead of one but it would make it possible to run the same CD on far more machines than now.

Point taken but I think its important it boots at all.
Once it boots you have the FAQ and cheatcodes so you can reboot with a tenative acpi or apm passed as a kernel option.
The prob with acpi is when it sucks it really sucks.

Some laptops do not actually boot at all. As noted in other threads, some notebooks freeze on boot with Knoppix 3.3 due to problems with ACPI and SMP. My Toshiba 2430 freezes after the boot prompt, no matter what cheatcodes I enter. There is an ACPI-enabled non-SMP version that someone created, but I am really hoping to be able to boot my laptop on 3.4.

[c123]

Startrek voice:
[...] I always use it as an indicator as to whether my snd card is working.

Same here.

XFCE:
From what I 've seen of XFCE, it has no desktop icons; maybe it's just an ugly habit of mine as a Windows user, but I like my desktop. Also, the file manager I used with XFCE was terrible, I like icon views, not list views. Note: I used Morphix LightGUI. If XFCE had a desktop and a better filemanager, I'd go for it.

Tried XFCE last night in Morphix LightGUI. Was expecting it to look prettier :( BTW any idea if it's possible to mve the mouse pointer just using the keyboard (in KDE, I think it's CTRL+F12 then you can use the mouse using jjkl; or four similar keys).

[tboege]

from http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6600

Shift+NumLock gives you movement of the mouse by using the keypad (5 clicks)