Deleting KDE ..

[XX]

I've installed newest KDE (3.1.94 b2) and I want to change kdm (ou initialization) to start by the new one. How can I do that? And how can I delete the old one? Because I can't find it .. it seems like I'm a newbie but I've installed the new on /usr/local/kde .. and it looks like the 3.1.4 isn't there ..

[fingers99]

How did you install the new one?

[XX]

How did you install the new one?

Compilating manually ... only needed packages

[Stephen]

I've installed newest KDE (3.1.94 b2) and I want to change kdm (ou initialization) to start by the new one. How can I do that? And how can I delete the old one? Because I can't find it .. it seems like I'm a newbie but I've installed the new on /usr/local/kde .. and it looks like the 3.1.4 isn't there ..

Not sure about your problem here never tried it from source but you can get pre-compiled .debs with this line in your sources.list:

## KDE CVS 
deb http://www.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~aschultz/debian/ unstable/

You can find the packages you need to upgrade by using the command COLUMNS=125 dpkg -l | grep 3.1.[345] which would give you output similar to this:

>$ COLUMNS=125 dpkg -l | grep 3.1.[345]
ii  ark                       3.1.4-1                   KDE archiving tool
ii  gawk                      3.1.3-2                   GNU awk, a pattern scanning and processing language
ii  kaddressbook              3.1.5-1                   KDE NG addressbook application
ii  kappfinder                3.1.5-1                   KDE Application Finder
ii  kate                      3.1.5-1                   KDE Advanced Text Editor
ii  kcontrol                  3.1.5-1                   KDE Control Center
ii  kdeartwork-theme-desktop  3.1.5-1                   Dummy upgrade package for official KDE desktop themes
ii  kdeartwork-theme-icon     3.1.5-1                   icon themes released with KDE
ii  kdebase                   3.1.5-1                   KDE Base metapackage
ii  kdebase-bin               3.1.5-1                   KDE Base (binaries)
ii  kdebase-data              3.1.5-1                   KDE Base (shared data)
ii  kdebase-kio-plugins       3.1.5-1                   KDE I/O Slaves
ii  kdelibs                   3.1.5-1                   KDE core libraries metapackage
ii  kdelibs-bin               3.1.5-1                   KDE core binaries
ii  kdelibs-data              3.1.5-1                   KDE core shared data
ii  kdelibs4                  3.1.5-1                   KDE core libraries
ii  kdepim-libs               3.1.5-1                   KDE PIM libraries
ii  kdeprint                  3.1.5-1                   KDE Print
ii  kdesktop                  3.1.5-1                   KDE Desktop
ii  kdewallpapers             3.1.5-1                   wallpapers released with KDE
ii  kdm                       3.1.5-1                   KDE Display Manager
ii  kfind                     3.1.5-1                   KDE File Find Utility
ii  kget                      3.1.5-1                   KDE Download Manager
ii  kghostview                3.1.5-1                   PostScript viewer for KDE
ii  khelpcenter               3.1.5-1                   KDE Help Center
ii  kicker                    3.1.5-1                   KDE Desktop Panel
ii  klipper                   3.1.5-1                   KDE Clipboard
ii  kmail                     3.1.5-1                   KDE Email client
ii  kmailcvt                  3.1.5-1                   KDE KMail addressbook converter
ii  kmenuedit                 3.1.5-1                   KDE Menu Editor
ii  kmix                      3.1.5-1                   KDE based mixer app
ii  kompare                   3.1.4-3                   a KDE GUI for viewing differences between files
ii  konq-plugins              3.1.5-1                   plugins for Konqueror, the KDE file/web/doc browser
ii  konqueror                 3.1.5-1                   KDE's advanced File Manager, Web Browser and Document Viewer
ii  konqueror-nsplugins       3.1.5-1                   Netscape plugin support for Konqueror
ii  konsole                   3.1.5-1                   KDE X terminal emulator
ii  kpager                    3.1.5-1                   KDE Desktop Pager
ii  kpersonalizer             3.1.5-1                   KDE Personalizer
ii  ksmserver                 3.1.5-1                   KDE Session Manager
ii  ksplash                   3.1.5-1                   KDE Splash Screen
ii  ksysguard                 3.1.5-1                   KDE System Guard
ii  ksysguardd                3.1.5-1                   KDE System Guard Daemon
ii  ktip                      3.1.5-1                   Kandalf's Useful Tips
ii  kuickshow                 3.1.5-1                   KDE image/slideshow viewer
ii  kview                     3.1.5-1                   KDE simple image viewer/converter
ii  kwin                      3.1.5-1                   KDE Window Manager
ii  libkdenetwork2            3.1.5-1                   KDE Network (common libraries)
ii  libkonq4                  3.1.5-1                   Core libraries for KDE's file manager
ii  libmimelib1               3.1.5-1                   KDE network mime library
ii  xfonts-konsole            3.1.5-1                   Fonts used by the KDE Konsole

And result in a command like this to upgrade the packages to the CVS versions for the packages.

apt-get -s install konq-plugins=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040104+as libarts1=1.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as libxslt1/unstable libqt3c102-mt=3:3.2.1-6+as1 kde-cvs-snapshot ark=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kaddressbook=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kappfinder=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kate=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kcontrol=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kdeartwork-theme-desktop=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031231+as kdeartwork-theme-icon=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031231+as kdebase=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kdebase-bin=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kdebase-data=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kdebase-kio-plugins=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kdelibs=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kdelibs-bin=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kdelibs-data=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kdelibs4=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kdepim-libs=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kdeprint=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kdesktop=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kdewallpapers=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031231+as kdm=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kfind=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kget=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kghostview=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as khelpcenter=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kicker=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as klipper=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kmail=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kmenuedit=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kmix=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040104+as konqueror=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as konqueror-nsplugins=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as konsole=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kpager=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kpersonalizer=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as ksmserver=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as ksplash=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as ksysguard=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as ksysguardd=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as ktip=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kuickshow=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kview=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kwin=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as libkdenetwork2=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as libkonq4=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as libmimelib1=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as xfonts-konsole=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as

This would be all on one line and you would modify for your installed packages and remove the -s from the command if things looked good to actually install the packages this best done from a console login and you will most likely need to use /etc/init.d/kdm restart to get a login at the new kdm greeter screen. Note for any additional packages you may want to install you need to use apt-cache policy package_name and use the exact version number with the = for that package to install. So if you want to give it a try this is another way to get what you want. Additional note the package gwak in the COLUMNS= output above did not need to be upgraded and the package libqt3c102-mt most likely needs to be downgraded to the 3:3.2.1-6+as1 version which will happen when you use the = in the install line it has to be this exact package or the CVS packages will not install.

[XX]

I've installed newest KDE (3.1.94 b2) and I want to change kdm (ou initialization) to start by the new one. How can I do that? And how can I delete the old one? Because I can't find it .. it seems like I'm a newbie but I've installed the new on /usr/local/kde .. and it looks like the 3.1.4 isn't there ..

Not sure about your problem here never tried it from source but you can get pre-compiled .debs with this line in your sources.list:

## KDE CVS 
deb http://www.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~aschultz/debian/ unstable/

You can find the packages you need to upgrade by using the command COLUMNS=125 dpkg -l | grep 3.1.[345] which would give you output similar to this:

>$ COLUMNS=125 dpkg -l | grep 3.1.[345]
ii  ark                       3.1.4-1                   KDE archiving tool
ii  gawk                      3.1.3-2                   GNU awk, a pattern scanning and processing language
ii  kaddressbook              3.1.5-1                   KDE NG addressbook application
ii  kappfinder                3.1.5-1                   KDE Application Finder
ii  kate                      3.1.5-1                   KDE Advanced Text Editor
ii  kcontrol                  3.1.5-1                   KDE Control Center
ii  kdeartwork-theme-desktop  3.1.5-1                   Dummy upgrade package for official KDE desktop themes
ii  kdeartwork-theme-icon     3.1.5-1                   icon themes released with KDE
ii  kdebase                   3.1.5-1                   KDE Base metapackage
ii  kdebase-bin               3.1.5-1                   KDE Base (binaries)
ii  kdebase-data              3.1.5-1                   KDE Base (shared data)
ii  kdebase-kio-plugins       3.1.5-1                   KDE I/O Slaves
ii  kdelibs                   3.1.5-1                   KDE core libraries metapackage
ii  kdelibs-bin               3.1.5-1                   KDE core binaries
ii  kdelibs-data              3.1.5-1                   KDE core shared data
ii  kdelibs4                  3.1.5-1                   KDE core libraries
ii  kdepim-libs               3.1.5-1                   KDE PIM libraries
ii  kdeprint                  3.1.5-1                   KDE Print
ii  kdesktop                  3.1.5-1                   KDE Desktop
ii  kdewallpapers             3.1.5-1                   wallpapers released with KDE
ii  kdm                       3.1.5-1                   KDE Display Manager
ii  kfind                     3.1.5-1                   KDE File Find Utility
ii  kget                      3.1.5-1                   KDE Download Manager
ii  kghostview                3.1.5-1                   PostScript viewer for KDE
ii  khelpcenter               3.1.5-1                   KDE Help Center
ii  kicker                    3.1.5-1                   KDE Desktop Panel
ii  klipper                   3.1.5-1                   KDE Clipboard
ii  kmail                     3.1.5-1                   KDE Email client
ii  kmailcvt                  3.1.5-1                   KDE KMail addressbook converter
ii  kmenuedit                 3.1.5-1                   KDE Menu Editor
ii  kmix                      3.1.5-1                   KDE based mixer app
ii  kompare                   3.1.4-3                   a KDE GUI for viewing differences between files
ii  konq-plugins              3.1.5-1                   plugins for Konqueror, the KDE file/web/doc browser
ii  konqueror                 3.1.5-1                   KDE's advanced File Manager, Web Browser and Document Viewer
ii  konqueror-nsplugins       3.1.5-1                   Netscape plugin support for Konqueror
ii  konsole                   3.1.5-1                   KDE X terminal emulator
ii  kpager                    3.1.5-1                   KDE Desktop Pager
ii  kpersonalizer             3.1.5-1                   KDE Personalizer
ii  ksmserver                 3.1.5-1                   KDE Session Manager
ii  ksplash                   3.1.5-1                   KDE Splash Screen
ii  ksysguard                 3.1.5-1                   KDE System Guard
ii  ksysguardd                3.1.5-1                   KDE System Guard Daemon
ii  ktip                      3.1.5-1                   Kandalf's Useful Tips
ii  kuickshow                 3.1.5-1                   KDE image/slideshow viewer
ii  kview                     3.1.5-1                   KDE simple image viewer/converter
ii  kwin                      3.1.5-1                   KDE Window Manager
ii  libkdenetwork2            3.1.5-1                   KDE Network (common libraries)
ii  libkonq4                  3.1.5-1                   Core libraries for KDE's file manager
ii  libmimelib1               3.1.5-1                   KDE network mime library
ii  xfonts-konsole            3.1.5-1                   Fonts used by the KDE Konsole

And result in a command like this to upgrade the packages to the CVS versions for the packages.

apt-get -s install konq-plugins=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040104+as libarts1=1.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as libxslt1/unstable libqt3c102-mt=3:3.2.1-6+as1 kde-cvs-snapshot ark=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kaddressbook=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kappfinder=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kate=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kcontrol=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kdeartwork-theme-desktop=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031231+as kdeartwork-theme-icon=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031231+as kdebase=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kdebase-bin=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kdebase-data=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kdebase-kio-plugins=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kdelibs=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kdelibs-bin=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kdelibs-data=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kdelibs4=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kdepim-libs=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kdeprint=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kdesktop=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kdewallpapers=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031231+as kdm=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kfind=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kget=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kghostview=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as khelpcenter=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kicker=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as klipper=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kmail=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kmenuedit=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kmix=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040104+as konqueror=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as konqueror-nsplugins=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as konsole=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kpager=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kpersonalizer=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as ksmserver=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as ksplash=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as ksysguard=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as ksysguardd=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as ktip=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as kuickshow=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kview=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as kwin=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as libkdenetwork2=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as libkonq4=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as libmimelib1=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040102+as xfonts-konsole=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20040103+as

This would be all on one line and you would modify for your installed packages and remove the -s from the command if things looked good to actually install the packages this best done from a console login and you will most likely need to use /etc/init.d/kdm restart to get a login at the new kdm greeter screen. Note for any additional packages you may want to install you need to use apt-cache policy package_name and use the exact version number with the = for that package to install. So if you want to give it a try this is another way to get what you want. Additional note the package gwak in the COLUMNS= output above did not need to be upgraded and the package libqt3c102-mt most likely needs to be downgraded to the 3:3.2.1-6+as1 version which will happen when you use the = in the install line it has to be this exact package or the CVS packages will not install.

Ops, I forgot to say that I don't want to replace KDE's .. so I'm going to install the new one on a different place ... and now its released 3.2rc1 (3.1.95 w/ some bugs fixed) so I'm compilating it .. but how can I change the startup to initialize by startkde of ~/kde_beta/bin/startkde in opposite to the default one?