KDE 3.2 upgrade

**debi** · 03-02-2004, 04:33 PM

Well i did the way described above and now if i try to login i am sent back to console!

if i type startx in the console i can see shortly the screen and then i am again sent back to console but there are no errors.
Has anyone suggestions?

**Hayabusa** · 03-07-2004, 10:17 PM

I had no luck at all with the getting the CVS kicker build to not flicker, setting transparencies and background images did absolutely zero (no background image, no transparency just the wonderful flicker). however thankfully kicker is one of the handful of KDE 3.2.1 packages that has made its way into sid and upgrading to those packages has fixed all of these issues.

as for debi's cooments it sounds like something i ran into a while back after upgrading kde. It sounds like xdm/kdm is up and running when that comes up and you log in the first time you have yo specify to log into KDE, which will then set KDE as the default, for some reason after upgrading at times the default widnow manager isn;t set and a login will kick you right back out.

**kovk** · 03-08-2004, 03:15 AM

If you follow these instructions they should provide the easiest and most hassle free way to upgrade knoppix.

Maybe I was doing something wrong, but I tried doing everything on this page 4 times and failed each time. Now it seems KDE 3.2 is mostly in the unstable repository, and I'll describe what I did which eventually worked. After messing everything up, I did a clean install with the latest version of Knoppix 3.3

Do NOT add any extra lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list file

Here is all you need to do people.
(revised guide, thanks Stephen)

1. Install Knoppix

2. log in as root (Do NOT do this from KDE, log into fluxbox or just do it from the console.)

3. apt-get update

4. apt-get -u -t unstable dist-upgrade

it downloads the packages and on mine and likely anyone else using a new clean version of knoppix it failed after doing trying to install kdebase.

5. dpkg --force--overwrite --install xxx.deb for each package that has this problem. (if you get a huge list of things you need to force try doing a 'apt-get -f install')

6. dpkg --configure -a

7. apt-get -u -t unstable dist-upgrade (it picks up where it left off)

follow steps 4 - 7 until you get no more errors

8. apt-get -u -t unstable install kdeartwork

9. Log out and type kdm, or just reboot.

10. Enjoy!

Anyway, it works. mostly, I don't seem to have the new taskbar applets but I think thats just because they havn't been added to the repository yet.

**Stephen** · 03-08-2004, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by kovk

Do NOT add any extra lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list file

Correct KDE 3.2.1 is mostly in unstable now.

4. apt-get -u -t people.debian.org dist-upgrade

Should be -t unstable you do not need the people packages and some people may want to use apt-get install -t unstable kdebase kdebase-bin ..... until you have all the KDE packages installed if they do not want to upgrade their whole install to unstable.

it downloads the packages and on mine(and likely anyone else using this version of knoppix. it failed after doing trying to install kdebase)

5. dpkg --force--overwrite --install xxx.deb for each package that has this problem. (should just be one, kdebase)

Good thing it was a fresh install and not the CVS packages I had to do all kinds of overwrites.

6. apt-get -u -t people.debian.org dist-upgrade (it picks up where it left off)

You should always use dpkg --configure -a before picking back up to configure any packages that may have been missed when you had the errors and had to force overwrite.

Anyway, it works. mostly, I don't seem to have the new taskbar applets or the plastik theme, but I think thats just because they havn't been added to the repository yet. I assume they will appear and I will be able to get them later with an additional 'apt-get -u -t people.debian.org dist-upgrade'

You missed some of the artwork packages it was either the -style or the -theme-window that did not get installed on mine.

Code:

[10:21 PM Sun Mar 07: stephen @ ~]
>$ COLUMNS=125 dpkg -l | grep 3.2.1
[snip...]
ii  kdeartwork                3.2.1-1                   themes, styles and more from the official KDE release
ii  kdeartwork-misc           3.2.1-1                   various multimedia goodies released with KDE
ii  kdeartwork-style          3.2.1-1                   widget styles released with KDE
ii  kdeartwork-theme-desktop  3.2.1-1                   Dummy upgrade package for official KDE desktop themes
ii  kdeartwork-theme-icon     3.2.1-1                   icon themes released with KDE
ii  kdeartwork-theme-window   3.2.1-1                   window decoration themes released with KDE
[snip...]

**kelmo** · 03-09-2004, 04:46 AM

Now the next challenge is to intergrate this into a remaster. Can anyone speculate whether or not the 45Xsession script will need to be modified to initiate KDE3.2 single live-cd session?

**aay** · 03-09-2004, 11:15 PM

Stephen,

(Or anyone else who has been using 3.2/3.2.1) have you had problems using alt + tab to switch between windows? I've found that on more than one of my machines if I have a few applications open and try and switch between them using alt + tab that sometimes window preview app pops up and then gets stuck. This would also happen in 3.1 occasionally but I found that clicking on the preview window itself would usually get rid of it. In 3.2 the problem has been much worse for me. When it gets stuck in 3.2, there is nothing I can do. The mouse will move all around the screen, but virtually none of the kde windows will respond to any right or left clicks. Moreover, the keyboard pretty unresponsive altogether. This means that trying to get into a virtual terminal and kill something via ctrl + alt + Fn won't work at all. Ctrl + alt + esc won't invoke xkill either. I have been able to ssh into said box and kill kdm. Then I can restart KDE w/o rebooting, but what sort of solution is this? Not a very good one. I haven't updated to 3.2.1 yet so maybe it's fixed there. Anyone else had this problem though? I asked about it in irc at #kde, but didn't get much of a response: just someone who didn't like Debian.

Thanks,

Adam

**Stephen** · 03-10-2004, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by aay

Stephen,

(Or anyone else who has been using 3.2/3.2.1) have you had problems using alt + tab to switch between windows? I've found that on more than one of my machines if I have a few applications open and try and switch between them using alt + tab that sometimes window preview app pops up and then gets stuck. This would also happen in 3.1 occasionally but I found that clicking on the preview window itself would usually get rid of it. In 3.2 the problem has been much worse for me. When it gets stuck in 3.2, there is nothing I can do. The mouse will move all around the screen, but virtually none of the kde windows will respond to any right or left clicks. Moreover, the keyboard pretty unresponsive altogether. This means that trying to get into a virtual terminal and kill something via ctrl + alt + Fn won't work at all. Ctrl + alt + esc won't invoke xkill either. I have been able to ssh into said box and kill kdm. Then I can restart KDE w/o rebooting, but what sort of solution is this? Not a very good one. I haven't updated to 3.2.1 yet so maybe it's fixed there. Anyone else had this problem though? I asked about it in irc at #kde, but didn't get much of a response: just someone who didn't like Debian.

Thanks,

Adam

No never seen that it works fine here and has through the CVS till now, the only thing I see a problem with is using the preview a post a couple of times a day at most it seg faults Konqueror and it is only here on this site that I have the problem damn weird. Although I do seem to recall reading somewhere about kdeinit taking about 100% cpu usage on occasion I think that was on the CVS or Debian User mailing list. I would say definitely upgrade if only to get the official packages then see if the problem persists.

**c123** · 03-18-2004, 10:24 PM

I'm trying to upgrade KDE but am having problems. I am logged in as root in a shell in IceWM.

Code:

 root@Knoppix:/home/christopher# dpkg --force --overwrite --install libice6_4.3.0-5_i386.deb
dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `--overwrite'
...
root@Knoppix:/home/christopher# dpkg --force--overwrite --install libice6_4.3.0-5_i386.deb
dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `-overwrite'

I tried `apt-get -f install' but that just gave me a lot of 'error processing' and 'dependency problems'

Code:

  
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kdelibs4-dev:
 kdelibs4-dev depends on libarts1-dev; however:
  Package libarts1-dev is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing kdelibs4-dev (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libxpm-dev
 libxp-dev
 libxext-dev
 libxrandr-dev
 libxv-dev
 j2re1.4
 libxtst-dev
 libxi-dev
 libsm-dev
 libice-dev
 libxt-dev
 xlibs-static-dev
 libxmuu-dev
 libx11-dev
 libxtrap-dev
 xlibs-dev
 libxmu-dev
 libqt3-mt-dev
 libarts1-dev
 kdelibs4-dev

With all these errors I have not tried step 8. 'apt-get -u -t unstable install kdeartwork'.

Any ideas as to what to try next?

[[This is an install of Knoppix 3.3 (2003-11-19 I think) installed to a firewire HDD; I am using the CD to boot to run level 2 then doing a pivot_root to switch the root to the firewire HDD and then going to run level 5.]]

**Stephen** · 03-18-2004, 11:18 PM

dpkg -i --force-overwrite libice6_4.3.0-5_i386.deb and put all the files that need overwriting on the same line and then dpkg --configure -a to configure any packages that may have been missed when the error happened.

**c123** · 03-18-2004, 11:31 PM

thanks for a quick reply :) I tried that, but still no go

Code:

E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
root@Knoppix:/home/christopher# dpkg -i --force-overwrite libice6_4.3.0-5_i386.d
eb libsm6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb libx11-6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb libxext6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb l
ibxi6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb libxt6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb libxmu6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb libxmuu1
_4.3.0-7_i386.deb libxp6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb libxpm4_4.3.0-7_i386.deb libxrandr2_4.
3.0-7_i386.deb libxtrap6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb libxtst6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb libxv1_4.3.0
-7_i386.deb
dpkg: error processing libice6_4.3.0-5_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing libsm6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing libx11-6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing libxext6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing libxi6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing libxt6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing libxmu6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing libxmuu1_4.3.0-7_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing libxp6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing libxpm4_4.3.0-7_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing libxrandr2_4.3.0-7_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing libxtrap6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing libxtst6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing libxv1_4.3.0-7_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libice6_4.3.0-5_i386.deb
 libsm6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb
 libx11-6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb
 libxext6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb
 libxi6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb
 libxt6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb
 libxmu6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb
 libxmuu1_4.3.0-7_i386.deb
 libxp6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb
 libxpm4_4.3.0-7_i386.deb
 libxrandr2_4.3.0-7_i386.deb
 libxtrap6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb
 libxtst6_4.3.0-7_i386.deb
 libxv1_4.3.0-7_i386.deb

I then tried 'dpkg --configure -a' but that just gave me errors as well

Code:

<snip>
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libarts1-dev:
 libarts1-dev depends on libqt3-mt-dev; however:
  Package libqt3-mt-dev is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing libarts1-dev (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kdelibs4-dev:
 kdelibs4-dev depends on libarts1-dev; however:
  Package libarts1-dev is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing kdelibs4-dev (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libxpm-dev
 libxp-dev
 libxext-dev
 libxrandr-dev
 libxv-dev
 j2re1.4
 libxtst-dev
 libxi-dev
 libsm-dev
 libice-dev
 libxt-dev
 xlibs-static-dev
 libxmuu-dev
 libx11-dev
 libxtrap-dev
 xlibs-dev
 libxmu-dev
 libqt3-mt-dev
 libarts1-dev

I get the impression that it is not to be... Wonder if Knoppix 3.4 CeBit edition will have kde 3.2. Oh well if you or anyone else still have any ideas I'm listening. I don;t suppose it could be a problem with my sources.list?