Why Knoppix 3.4 is delayed again ...

[robwelch100]

Now that this thread has reached 10 pages I have noticed that original reason for the post is being ignored. THE BOTTOM LINE, 3.4 will not be released untill 65MB are trimed. Just an idea but maybe we can give our ideas and let those involved in making the product decide the merits and leave the squabling for another thread. We have gotten detoured onto other topics like cd vs. dvd (myself included). lets work as a knoppix community to give our suggestions (for that's all they are) and move on. Most of the posts on this thread spend time debating the opinions of another person (opinions are rarely changed so easily) This is supposed to be a "suggestion box". No one will die if an app they use every now and then, is removed to make this thing fit.

[c123]

The common consensus (!?!?!) is to get rid of one of the office suites (KOffice or Open Office)... As two are (is?) overkill, and that should go a long way to releasing the required 65 MB. Only there's little agreement on which one should be removed. I 'spose the best thing would be to set up a poll (got to run or I'd try to do it).

Other suggestions are removing
- games (I'm against),
- locales other than English and German (against),
- development tools (against),
- 2.4 kernel (for).

Perhaps it should be part of the poll? Time to go home, will check on this later.

[at88mph]

What if there were a game distribution, and an office distribution to pick from? You could pick whatever packages you want after that. Part of the beauty of Linux is that you can acquire virtually anything you want, so get an Office distribution, then apt-get whatever games, and only the games, you want. That way, there would also be plenty of room on both distributions to expand on them in their own direction (i.e. game distribution gets more and better games).

I'm sure people could think of better reasons for doing this too, but this is off the top of my head.

Dustin

[fstephens]

Well, if there is a poll, I vote to remove KOffice. Not to put down the KDE developers, but OO is clearly in the lead for now, plus being cross-platform.

If this frees up the 65MB, great, if not, I personally would lose the games and keep the best of apps that are duplicates.
Perhaps keep only one lightweight window manager too?

Mostly I use Mozilla, OO, GIMP, image viewers, gphoto and the diagnostic tools-QTParted, etc.

I doubt that many people use the Live CD version as thier primary OS, so that should also help dicate which programs to keep-
What do we REALLY need on a live CD?

I do like the idea of a script that generates a personally customized version if it can be easily done, but I sure would like to see 3.4 soon!

[LordHarshmage]

[OK, everyone start chanting with me so that Klaus himself can hear us . . . .

WE WANT DVD!!!!
WE WANT DVD!!!!
WE WANT DVD!!!!
WE WANT DVD!!!! [/quote]



WE WANT DVD!!!! WE WANT DVD!!!! WE WANT DVD!!!! WE WANT DVD!!!! WE WANT DVD!!!! WE WANT DVD!!!! WE WANT DVD!!!! WE WANT DVD!!!! WE WANT DVD!!!!

Oh, and I wouldn't mind killing Mozilla and putting on Firefox. Moz takes just so long to load, and it's...it's too much like Nutscrape to me.

[SUOrangeman]

... The 2.6 kernel is what should help me install gentoo onto my raid, but they didn't put in on the 2004.0 live cd (bit stupid IMO).

The 'smp' kernel on Gentoo 2004.0 is indeed 2.6. I think the normal kernel is 2.4. Once you've booted up, you can pull the gentoo-dev-sources to compile the latest 2.6.x kernel.

Anyway, I am happily running Gentoo with the 2.6.5 kernel, and may not come back to KNOPPIX until its 2.6 kernel supports my Promise SATA controller out-of-the-box. It's kinda had to play with the hdinstall, if I can even see my HD!

Oh yeah, I would thoroughly enjoy a DVD iso, as long as the above requirement is met!

-SUO

[A. Jorge Garcia]

What if there were a game distribution, and an office distribution to pick from? You could pick whatever packages you want after that.

Come on, Johnny, can you spell MORPHIX?

Regards,
AJG

[at88mph]

While that is another option, this is a Knoppix forum. There're plenty of other distributions if you simply wanted to work around the issue as opposed to solve it. Why not allow Knoppix flavours?

[zentu]

While that is another option, this is a Knoppix forum. There're plenty of other distributions if you simply wanted to work around the issue as opposed to solve it. Why not allow Knoppix flavours?

Perhaps because there is only one Klaus, so let him work on the one, then anyone else could work on the Ideas that they have. Sorry if I sound like an arse, but the guy only has so much time...

I personally think that he should release it on a DVD [that he could easily remaster into the CD] (but keep the CD as a different version number, so that the enivitable release of an only DVD version wouldn't be so unexpected whenever it finally arrives), that way he won't really have to worry for these type of space constraint options for quite awhile, but then again that is his choice, not mine. But I really hope that he can get the ISO out soon.


P.s. Hey site MODs could we place the headlines back on the Front page again, it saves me some time so I can see if there is any new news when at school.

[Castershell]

Or at least announce when 3.4 is out on the front page ya?