Why Knoppix 3.4 is delayed again ...

[evermore]

you know, most of the shit you guys are spouting is just flaming.
it's ridiculous.
chill out, get a life.
it will
be ready right after it's finished.

[Rink]

>it will be ready right after it's finished.

Yeah.

At the moment I've got the bandwidth to download it.

In a couple of weeks I'm going to be out in the sticks with a dodgy phone line and a 14.4 connection.

Hurry, please Klaus!

[rickwinters]

I'm still looking for somewhere to donate to the knoppix crew. I was told I should support Knoppix by supporting Debian. Gotta tell you tho - I'm not nearly as impressed with Debian developers as I am with the Knoppix crew. These people deserve all the support we can put together......


rw

You do know the a good majority of the packages on the CD and almost all of the bandwidth after install comes from Debian right??

I'm very aware that the base system is Debian. Debian has not come to grips with modern installers and other goodies. That's precisely why there are scores of distros based on it.

The base Debian distro is really deficient in commonly accepted modern features.


rw

[Stephen]

I'm very aware that the base system is Debian. Debian has not come to grips with modern installers and other goodies. That's precisely why there are scores of distros based on it.

The base Debian distro is really deficient in commonly accepted modern features.


rw

Ah your one of them if you cannot click a button it's no good.

[aay]

I'm very aware that the base system is Debian. Debian has not come to grips with modern installers and other goodies. That's precisely why there are scores of distros based on it.

The base Debian distro is really deficient in commonly accepted modern features.


rw

Hmm. Have you seen the new Debian installer? It's pretty slick. Much easier than the old one. A few distros are using it already although it's not been officially released yet. I did an install with Skole Linux and it was very simple and easy to install.

[dJCL]

I'm very aware that the base system is Debian. Debian has not come to grips with modern installers and other goodies. That's precisely why there are scores of distros based on it.

The base Debian distro is really deficient in commonly accepted modern features.

There is a reason that a large number of distro's base off of Debian. It's solid, simple and works well. They have decided, through generally democratic ways, on what should be done with the distro, but don't stop people from extending that. I use stock debian on most of my machines, just installed a text only one on my laptops's spare HD the other day, and get exactly what I want.

I've installed Xandros on a client's system recently, and it was simpler then installing any windows app in exsistence, especially windows itself, and adding programs is dead simple too( and it's all based on debian, so therefore apt to do this ). If you have a good base to stand on, a good product is easier to make.

Debian is to Knoppix, what Knoppix is to all the other Bootable CD's based off of it... a starting point.

Anyway...

Enjoy!

dJCL

[rickwinters]

I'm very aware that the base system is Debian. Debian has not come to grips with modern installers and other goodies. That's precisely why there are scores of distros based on it.

The base Debian distro is really deficient in commonly accepted modern features.


rw

Ah your one of them if you cannot click a button it's no good.

<grins> There's a real good possibility that I was programming before you were born. Or are you a relic like me? Remember CPM? S100 Bus? $400.00 USD Z80 CPU's?

The point I'm making is that simple, reliable operating systems are fine; but so was the Model T. It's nice to learn to do manual things but this is '04, and I like good usable, modern tools built for productivity.

If you want to rub two sticks together to start your fire....go for it and more power to you. I prefer the microwave. Variety and tolerance are the spice of life.....

rw

[rickwinters]

I'm very aware that the base system is Debian. Debian has not come to grips with modern installers and other goodies. That's precisely why there are scores of distros based on it.

The base Debian distro is really deficient in commonly accepted modern features.


rw

Hmm. Have you seen the new Debian installer? It's pretty slick. Much easier than the old one. A few distros are using it already although it's not been officially released yet. I did an install with Skole Linux and it was very simple and easy to install.

Are you taking about the curses-like Beta3 installer for Sarge? I did an install with that once -- reminded me of Redhat 4.2. Just not my thing. There are several GPL full graphical installers available that Debian could integrate into their distro with comparitively little effort -- the beta3 installer sure seems like a waste of time from my perspective.

Gotta say tho - I sure enjoy Debian when it's configured and running. It's easy to see why people like it so much. Also, Synaptic is very sweet -- it's the kind of forward thinking tool I really enjoy.


rw

[pedxing]

<grins> There's a real good possibility that I was programming before you were born. Or are you a relic like me? Remember CPM? S100 Bus? $400.00 USD Z80 CPU's?

The point I'm making is that simple, reliable operating systems are fine; but so was the Model T. It's nice to learn to do manual things but this is '04, and I like good usable, modern tools built for productivity.

If you want to rub two sticks together to start your fire....go for it and more power to you. I prefer the microwave. Variety and tolerance are the spice of life.....

rw

You start fires with your microwave? Yowsa!

[OErjan]

microwaves are good for firemaking, just put micro-popcorns on full effect for 5 min, my nice did that. lucky for us we where in the kitchen so... but the smell