well the reply i got earlier worked fine so many thanks but word of warning, don't try the mail program unless you intend to move over permanently. you'll lose any mail you recive. one of which might be really important!!! i will change over soon. its excellent when you get in so keep trying guys. just need to save my files before i do and think i will do a full format first. anyone know how to save outlook emails and address book in a useable format on linux?