Hd Install HowTo - Revision history

Werner P. Schulz: Replacing page with '{{delete|out of date}}--~~~~'

2012-02-22T11:57:24Z

Replacing page with '{{delete|out of date}}--~~~~'

Clinton: Reverted edits by Wiki080 (Talk); changed back to last version by Clinton

2010-04-16T18:01:44Z

Reverted edits by Wiki080 (Talk); changed back to last version by Clinton

Wiki080 at 15:41, 14 April 2010

2010-04-14T15:41:11Z

Clinton: rm dead link/s

2008-10-16T14:56:14Z

rm dead link/s

134.76.7.124: /* Types of installation */ improved: "most problems and confusion arrive" -> "most problems and confusion arise"

2008-08-20T11:00:07Z

‎Types of installation: improved: "most problems and confusion arrive" -> "most problems and confusion arise"

202.89.183.176: /* Knoppix HD Install Flash Video */

2008-07-05T13:24:34Z

‎Knoppix HD Install Flash Video

89.210.167.77: /* Some Background information about a Knoppix HD install */

2008-02-24T11:57:29Z

‎Some Background information about a Knoppix HD install

Graham87: /* Beginning a Knoppix HD install */ rm doubled "for", link directly to Wikipedia article

2007-01-15T12:45:30Z

‎Beginning a Knoppix HD install: rm doubled "for", link directly to Wikipedia article

Jacky at 13:05, 10 October 2006

2006-10-10T13:05:02Z

Kikibatlubbin: /* Beginning a Knoppix HD install */

2005-12-25T02:03:44Z

‎Beginning a Knoppix HD install

@@ Line 1: / Line 1: @@
-====Some Background information about a Knoppix HD install====
+{{delete|out of date}}--[[User:Werner P. Schulz|Werner P. Schulz]] 04:57, 22 February 2012 (MST)
-You can install Knoppix to a hard drive, if you wish, though installation is not required for productive use. If you only want to free up your CD drive, save data, make configuration and customisations, install new software packages, and have all these changes available from session to session, you don't need to install to hard drive.  Consider these [[Live CD Tips]] instead.
-−
-Knoppix is designed & intended to be used as a [http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html GNU/Linux] LiveCD and not a HD installed Linux distro. A HD installed Knoppix will give you a running [http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html GNU/Linux] system but it is not easy to support or administrate and add/remove of software is complicated and is best left to GNU/Linux experts. Examples of such issues can be found in the [http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=5 Hdd Install / Debian / Apt forum]. If you are a new user and not a GNU/Linux expert & want a HD installed system then skip the LiveCDs and go directly to a distro designed to be installed to a HD, for example [http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ Debian 3.1r0a (sarge)]. Feel free to ask about other distros in [http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=7 The Lounge] forum.
-−
-Once Knoppix is installed on a hard drive, it's no longer a Knoppix LiveCD but a Debian based GNU/Linux system. Something to note is that Debian developers/users/mentors do not consider Knoppix installed to a hard drive to truly be Debian. They will not support Knoppix users & will tell them to go to Knoppix.net for support. You can ask about alternatives to a HD install and get advice on other distros in [http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=7 The Lounge] forum.
-−
-knoppix-installer was written and maintained by Fabian Franz but now appears to be collaborative effort between Fabian, Klaus Knopper, and Kano of Kanotix. See [[Knoppix Installer]] for more detailed information.
-−
-====Beginning a Knoppix HD install====
-−
-'''WARNING! There is ALWAYS some risk of losing data. Please ALWAYS make sure that you have a working backup of your important data prior to experimenting with ANY new software, no matter if Windows, Linux or anything else.'''
-−
-−
-That said, if you want to do the HD install, you should get Knoppix version 3.4 or later, preferably the most recent Knoppix release. You should make sure there is some empty space on your hard drive so you can create at least 2 Linux partitions, one for the System (minimal 3 GB, 5GB recommended) and another partition for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory Swap] ( minimal 200MB, 500MB recommended) during the installation process. It is VERY important that the swap space partition is of type "Linux Swap space" (or equivalent"). A partitioning program, qtparted, is integrated in the knoppix-installer. It is possible to resize a NTFS partition with qtparted but again there is ALWAYS some risk of losing data.
-−
-Boot off the Knoppix disc. At the KDE desktop, in the konsole command line window enter the command:
- sudo knoppix-installer
-−
-In the knoppix-installer, the arrow keys move focus and space bar selects options. Be sure the root partition is among the first 4 partitions on the drive, formatted with ext2 or ext3, and is set to "active." The swap partition must be formatted with "linux-swap." Installation and subsequent booting will not continue otherwise.
-−
-''Do not use "knx-hdinstall" anymore. "knx-hdinstall" is no longer maintained, use "knoppix-installer" instead.''
-−
-====Knoppix HD Install Flash Video====
-See also a [http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/knoppix1 Macromedia Flash video for installing Knoppix to the HD] made by irongeek. This Flash video is a good resource that lets the user see how a HD install is done. It is not a substitute for reading this HowTo as it does not cover the risks or the different types of HD installs.
-−
-====Types of installation====
-*Debian (hd swap name user userpass rootpass host services boot)
-**Prefered method of HD install.
-**Just carries acpi, noapic, nosmp, pci, pnpbios and noapm forward on the kernel command line
-**Allows multiple users
-**Bears the closest resemblance to a "normal" debian installation.
-*Knoppix (hd swap services boot)
-**A copy of the liveCD on hard disk
-**Works exactly as the cd based system does except apt-get can be used to add more software and the system is no longer read-only.
-**DOES NOT ALLOW MULTIPLE USERS!   You are automatically logged in.
-**Carries kernel command line to new system (i.e. Cheat codes) except for vga, initrd and BOOT_IMAGE
-*Beginner Default (hd swap name user userpass rootpass host services boot)
-**Uses Knoppix Hardware detection
-**Allows multiple users
-** Carries kernel command line to new system (i.e. Cheat codes) except for vga, initrd and BOOT_IMAGE
-−
-−
-The general consensus seems to be that most problems and confusion arise with people using the knoppix or beginner type of installation. The debian type install is now the default choice & is prefered. More experienced users will probably want stay with the debian type install. Users not familiar with setting up hardware or maintaining a GNU/Linux system may not want to do a Debian style install and instead choose the beginner or knoppix types. If you choose beginner or knoppix, be aware that you are still using the auto-configuration so you can change your cheatcodes, the flip-side is that changes you may think you are making permanently will be overwritten when you reboot. It is the balance of convinience of hardware setup (especially if you change hardware) versus having a more regular installed linux (debian) system.
-−
-====Blind Installation====
-It's possible to install Knoppix on a PC's hd without a monitor, see [[Hd Install Without a Monitor HowTo]]
-−
-====Updating HD installation====
-−
-You can do a
-−
- for i in $(COLUMNS=240 dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}') ; do
-   echo dpkg-repack --root=/KNOPPIX "$i"
- done
-−
-(The following worked for me with Knoppix 3.7 2004-12-08: create a bash script and sudo sh bashscriptname)
-−
-   #!/bin/bash
-−
-   echo ""
-   for i in $(COLUMNS=240 dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}') ; do
-     echo dpkg-repack --root=/KNOPPIX "$i"
-     dpkg-repack --root=/KNOPPIX "$i"
-     mv *.deb /mnt/hdxn
-   done
-   # where hdxn is your destination partition
-   # for the packages (needs 700 MB free)
-   echo ""
-   read -p "Finished; press Enter to exit"
-   echo ""
-−
-−
-to create packages from a running KNOPPIX CD to a writable harddisk
-partition, and install/update these packages with dpkg -i.
-−
-See:
-−
-* http://freshmeat.net/projects/dpkg/
-* tldp.org/LDP/linuxcookbook/html/cookbook_4.html#SEC42 (dead link)
-* http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/dpkg-internals/
-* http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
-−
-Using the Knoppix repository atdeveloper.linuxtag.net/knoppix/ (dead link)
-plus the standard debian mirrors is easier, though.
-See also : http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
-−
-==== Installing Gnome ====
-To install [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnome Gnome], you have to comment all the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list except the unstable ones. Then issue the commands as root:
- apt-get update
- apt-get install gnome
-−
-−
-In order to have gnome-session working you must execute the following command and choose metacity and/or gdm:
- update-alternatives --config x-window-manager
-−
-Optionally you can also install galeon, evolution, etc.
-'[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gdm gdm]'''.
-−
-See also DebianWiki entry for Installing GNOME. (dead link)
-−
-−
-−
-[[Category: Hard drive Installation]]

@@ Line 24: / Line 24: @@
 ====Knoppix HD Install Flash Video====
 See also a [http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/knoppix1 Macromedia Flash video for installing Knoppix to the HD] made by irongeek. This Flash video is a good resource that lets the user see how a HD install is done. It is not a substitute for reading this HowTo as it does not cover the risks or the different types of HD installs.
 ====Types of installation====

@@ Line 24: / Line 24: @@
 ====Knoppix HD Install Flash Video====
 See also a [http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/knoppix1 Macromedia Flash video for installing Knoppix to the HD] made by irongeek. This Flash video is a good resource that lets the user see how a HD install is done. It is not a substitute for reading this HowTo as it does not cover the risks or the different types of HD installs.
 ====Types of installation====

@@ Line 78: / Line 78: @@
 * http://freshmeat.net/projects/dpkg/
-* http://www.tldp.org/LDP/linuxcookbook/html/cookbook_4.html#SEC42
+* tldp.org/LDP/linuxcookbook/html/cookbook_4.html#SEC42 (dead link)
 * http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/dpkg-internals/
 * http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
-Using the Knoppix repository at http://developer.linuxtag.net/knoppix/
+Using the Knoppix repository atdeveloper.linuxtag.net/knoppix/ (dead link)
 plus the standard debian mirrors is easier, though.
 See also : http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
@@ Line 98: / Line 98: @@
 '[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gdm gdm]'''.
-See also [http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianGnome DebianWiki entry for Installing GNOME.]
+See also DebianWiki entry for Installing GNOME. (dead link)
 [[Category: Hard drive Installation]]

← Older revision		Revision as of 11:00, 20 August 2008
Line 42:		Line 42:


−	The general consensus seems to be that most problems and confusion ~~arrive~~ with people using the knoppix or beginner type of installation. The debian type install is now the default choice & is prefered. More experienced users will probably want stay with the debian type install. Users not familiar with setting up hardware or maintaining a GNU/Linux system may not want to do a Debian style install and instead choose the beginner or knoppix types. If you choose beginner or knoppix, be aware that you are still using the auto-configuration so you can change your cheatcodes, the flip-side is that changes you may think you are making permanently will be overwritten when you reboot. It is the balance of convinience of hardware setup (especially if you change hardware) versus having a more regular installed linux (debian) system.	+	The general consensus seems to be that most problems and confusion arise with people using the knoppix or beginner type of installation. The debian type install is now the default choice & is prefered. More experienced users will probably want stay with the debian type install. Users not familiar with setting up hardware or maintaining a GNU/Linux system may not want to do a Debian style install and instead choose the beginner or knoppix types. If you choose beginner or knoppix, be aware that you are still using the auto-configuration so you can change your cheatcodes, the flip-side is that changes you may think you are making permanently will be overwritten when you reboot. It is the balance of convinience of hardware setup (especially if you change hardware) versus having a more regular installed linux (debian) system.

	====Blind Installation====		====Blind Installation====

← Older revision		Revision as of 12:45, 15 January 2007
Line 13:		Line 13:


−	That said, if you want to do the HD install, you should get Knoppix version 3.4 or later, preferably the most recent Knoppix release. You should make sure there is some empty space on your hard drive so you can create at least 2 Linux partitions, one for the System (minimal 3 GB, 5GB recommended) and another partition ~~for~~ for [http://~~www~~.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory Swap] ( minimal 200MB, 500MB recommended) during the installation process. It is VERY important that the swap space partition is of type "Linux Swap space" (or equivalent"). A partitioning program, qtparted, is integrated in the knoppix-installer. It is possible to resize a NTFS partition with qtparted but again there is ALWAYS some risk of losing data.	+	That said, if you want to do the HD install, you should get Knoppix version 3.4 or later, preferably the most recent Knoppix release. You should make sure there is some empty space on your hard drive so you can create at least 2 Linux partitions, one for the System (minimal 3 GB, 5GB recommended) and another partition for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory Swap] ( minimal 200MB, 500MB recommended) during the installation process. It is VERY important that the swap space partition is of type "Linux Swap space" (or equivalent"). A partitioning program, qtparted, is integrated in the knoppix-installer. It is possible to resize a NTFS partition with qtparted but again there is ALWAYS some risk of losing data.

	Boot off the Knoppix disc. At the KDE desktop, in the konsole command line window enter the command:		Boot off the Knoppix disc. At the KDE desktop, in the konsole command line window enter the command:

← Older revision		Revision as of 02:03, 25 December 2005
Line 11:		Line 11:


−	That said, if you want to do the HD install, you should get Knoppix version 3.4 or later, preferably the most recent Knoppix release. You should make sure there is some empty space on your hard drive so you can create at least 2 Linux partitions, one for the System (minimal 3 GB, 5GB recommended) and another partition for for [http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory Swap] ( minimal 200MB, 500MB recommended) during the installation process. It is VERY important that the swap space partition is of type "Linux Swap space" (or ~~equivelent~~"). A partitioning program, qtparted, is integrated in the knoppix-installer. It is possible to resize a NTFS partition with qtparted but again there is ALWAYS some risk of losing data.	+	That said, if you want to do the HD install, you should get Knoppix version 3.4 or later, preferably the most recent Knoppix release. You should make sure there is some empty space on your hard drive so you can create at least 2 Linux partitions, one for the System (minimal 3 GB, 5GB recommended) and another partition for for [http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory Swap] ( minimal 200MB, 500MB recommended) during the installation process. It is VERY important that the swap space partition is of type "Linux Swap space" (or equivalent"). A partitioning program, qtparted, is integrated in the knoppix-installer. It is possible to resize a NTFS partition with qtparted but again there is ALWAYS some risk of losing data.

	Boot off the Knoppix disc. At the KDE desktop, in the konsole command line window enter the command:		Boot off the Knoppix disc. At the KDE desktop, in the konsole command line window enter the command: