Where`s my Internal Iomega Zip Drive?

[Honkeychops]

On bootup I can clearly see that my Iomega Zip Drive is detected as *hdb*
and DMA is turned on, but when I get to desktop....NO ZIP Drive!!

I have previously set up a persistant home directory using a USB thumb drive set as *sdb1* and this drive does apear on the desktop.

Can anyone here help out this newb ?

Thanks,
Matt

[mzilikazi]

Never owned or used a zip drive before but it shouldn't be hard to mount it. Of course I presume that you have a disc in the drive.

su
fdisk -l

That will show you what discs are available and what they're called. Let's say you have hdb1:

mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
cd /mnt/hdb1
ls

You should see whatever is on the disc.
If not post the output of fdisk -l please.

[Honkeychops]

Here is my output of fdisk -l
There is NO mention of *hdb1*
It is as I have said, clearly detected and listed during bootup!
Yes, I have a Zip floppy inserted in the drive


knoppix@ttyp0[knoppix]$ su
root@ttyp0[knoppix]# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hde: 30.0 GB, 30020272128 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3649 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hde1 * 1 1785 14337981 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hde2 1786 3649 14972580 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hde5 1786 3649 14972548+ 7 HPFS/NTFS

Disk /dev/hdg: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdg1 1 9729 78148161 7 HPFS/NTFS

Disk /dev/hdh: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdh1 1 4865 39078081 7 HPFS/NTFS
root@ttyp0[knoppix]#

[mzilikazi]

From what I've read the internal ZIP drives would use SCSI emulation. This means that your drive will (should?) appear as /dev/sda.

A few things to try (grepped from forum postings)

cdrecord -scanbus
cat /proc/scsi/scsi

Hopefully your drive shows up there.
You can try probing a driver:

su
modprobe <driver>

<driver> is any of the following:

ide-floppy
ide-scsi
sd_mod
scsi_mod

Check to see if any of the drivers probed:

lsmod

After modprobing a driver scan the SCSI BUS again and see if it's there. Post your results please.

If none of that works then you could always search the mailing list archives or even submit to the list if you find no answer.

gluck

[Honkeychops]

Here are my results of: cdrecord -scanbus *and* cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Also, when I modprobe scsi_mod I get: not found, and when I modprobe ide-scsi I get nothing!
Thanks for your interest and help on this.

Matt


knoppix@ttyp0[knoppix]$ cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a27 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling
NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord
and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version.
Please send bug reports and support requests to <[email protected]>.
The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version.

Linux sg driver version: 3.5.30
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'YAMAHA ' 'CRW-F1E ' '1.0c' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *
scsibus1:
1,0,0 100) 'IOMEGA ' 'ZIP 100 ' '03.H' Removable Disk
1,1,0 101) *
1,2,0 102) *
1,3,0 103) *
1,4,0 104) *
1,5,0 105) *
1,6,0 106) *
1,7,0 107) *
scsibus2:
2,0,0 200) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVDRAM GSA-4040B' 'A300' Removable CD-ROM
2,1,0 201) *
2,2,0 202) *
2,3,0 203) *
2,4,0 204) *
2,5,0 205) *
2,6,0 206) *
2,7,0 207) *
scsibus3:
3,0,0 300) 'LEXAR ' 'JUMPDRIVE ' '1.20' Removable Disk
3,1,0 301) *
3,2,0 302) *
3,3,0 303) *
3,4,0 304) *
3,5,0 305) *
3,6,0 306) *
3,7,0 307) *
knoppix@ttyp0[knoppix]$ cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
Vendor: YAMAHA Model: CRW-F1E Rev: 1.0c
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
Vendor: IOMEGA Model: ZIP 100 Rev: 03.H
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: ffffffff
Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
Vendor: HL-DT-ST Model: DVDRAM GSA-4040B Rev: A300
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi3 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
Vendor: LEXAR Model: JUMPDRIVE Rev: 1.20
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
knoppix@ttyp0[knoppix]$ su
root@ttyp0[knoppix]# modprobe scsi_mod
FATAL: Module scsi_mod not found.
root@ttyp0[knoppix]# modprobe ide-scsi

[mzilikazi]

when I modprobe ide-scsi I get nothing!

That's exactly the behaviour you'd expect if it worked. See if the driver loaded:

lsmod|grep ide-scsi

If it did load you may find that it's necessary to load it manually on each boot unless you can somehow do it automatically w/ persistent home or ??? I am not very familiar w/ the persistent home feature as I do not use live cd's in that way.

scsibus1:
1,0,0 100) 'IOMEGA ' 'ZIP 100 ' '03.H' Removable Disk

Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
Vendor: IOMEGA Model: ZIP 100 Rev: 03.H
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: ffffffff

Cool so we find your drive living on SCSI BUS 1 so *hopefully* it is only a matter of mounting the drive correctly.

fdisk -l /dev/sda
fdisk -l /dev/sdb

Assuming you find it under /dev/sdb:

mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt/floppy

OR it has also been suggested that you mount the entire drive:

mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /mnt/floppy

Maybe some more explicit mounting instructions are necessary:

mount - t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/floppy

You can always issue mount to see what's mounted and where.

gluck

[Honkeychops]

gluck,

lsmod|grep ide-scsi comes back... nothing!
Same with: fdisk -l /dev/sda
/dev/sdb1 is my usb thumb drive.
Mount command shown below
And finally mounting entire /dev/sdb also below.
Thanks again for your input.
Matt

root@ttyp0[knoppix]# lsmod|grep ide-scsi
root@ttyp0[knoppix]# fdisk -l /sda
root@ttyp0[knoppix]# fdisk -l /dev/sdb

Disk /dev/sdb: 128 MB, 128974848 bytes
8 heads, 32 sectors/track, 984 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 256 * 512 = 131072 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 979 125296 b W95 FAT32

root@ttyp0[knoppix]#
root@ttyp0[knoppix]# mount
/dev/root on / type ext2 (rw)
/dev/scd0 on /cdrom type iso9660 (ro)
/dev/cloop on /KNOPPIX type iso9660 (ro)
/ramdisk on /ramdisk type tmpfs (rw,size=402876k)
/proc/bus/usb on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw,devmode=0666)
/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/sdb1 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,umask=000,uid=1000,gid=1000)
/mnt/sdb1/knoppix.img on /home/knoppix type ext2 (rw,loop=/dev/loop0)
automount(pid156 on /mnt/auto type autofs (rw,fd=4,pgrp=1568,minproto=2,maxproto=4)

root@ttyp0[knoppix]# mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /mnt/floppy
mount: mount point /mnt/floppy is a symbolic link to nowhere
root@ttyp0[knoppix]#