Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: Knoppix 8 Remaster Question during flash-knoppix install

  1. #1
    Member registered user
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Malta
    Posts
    49

    Knoppix 8 Remaster Question during flash-knoppix install

    When using flash-knoppix to install knoppix on USB, first it asks whether you would like to create an overlay file and then, afterwards, it asks if you want to remaster knoppix.

    What is the difference between the overlay and the remaster thing?

    I always considered the overlay as a "simple" (but not actual) remaster.

    What does knoppix do on the USB if you answer Yes to the remaster question please?

    Thanks in advance.

  2. #2
    Member registered user
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Malta
    Posts
    49
    Any feedback on this please?

  3. #3
    Senior Member registered user
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    802
    I haven't tried that option, but in general, remastering means creating a new compressed image, while overlays are stacked compressed file system modifications relative to the rest of the stack.
    So if you have a series of overlays, you might consider a remastering to collapse that stack and get better efficiency.

  4. #4
    Member registered user
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Malta
    Posts
    49
    Thanks for your reply Capricorny. That is how I understand it as well.

    However, at install time, whether you choose to Remaster or not, it still creates KNOPPIX2 as a stacked compressed file system and, as far as I know, there is no option (script?) in Knoppix to generate a remastered image. There was once a script by Werner P. Schulz to create a remastered image but now the website does not exist any more. It would be great if such script are integrated in the Live DVD since it would make remastering much easier.

  5. #5
    Senior Member registered user
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    802
    What is going on, I think, is that a slightly more "advanced" form of remastering is done, where the cloop images are created subject to the 4GB filesize constraint. The overlays are collapsed, but two non-overlapping images are created. If your files are to reside on less restricted file systems, you don't need to care about that - unless there is some limits in cloop file creation. I mostly use a "knoppified" version of plain Debian now, and there squashfs is used. But the principle for remastering is exactly the same.
    I think you should not let the lack of updated scripts stop you. There are several code snippets posted here through the years to work from.

  6. #6
    Senior Member registered user
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    802
    Now I have tried the "remaster" option, and it seems to me that the new overlay KNOPPIX2 is simply created on top of KNOPPIX and KNOPPIX1. Which may seem like a nuisance if you have purged a lot of packages to make room for new programs, but isn't really too bad for most ordinary use cases. I use both standard Debian (live) and Knoppix, and while I will stick to the ordinary remastering procedure for Debian, I think this "shallow" remastering will suffice for my Knoppix use.
    One of the real handy features of frequent remastering, is that the system may often be run without persistent store, which means, among other things, that errors or malware that is introduced will not survive the next reboot.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


Dell 6P85J 4TB ST4000NM0063 7.2k 6Gb/s 3.5” SAS SED Hard Drive with Tray picture

Dell 6P85J 4TB ST4000NM0063 7.2k 6Gb/s 3.5” SAS SED Hard Drive with Tray

$39.99



Western Digital HUS726T4TAL5204 4TB 7.2K SAS 12Gb/s 3.5

Western Digital HUS726T4TAL5204 4TB 7.2K SAS 12Gb/s 3.5" 512e HDD NetApp X375A

$64.00



HGST Ultrastar HUS726040AL5210 4TB 7200RPM SAS 12Gb/s Enterprise HDD picture

HGST Ultrastar HUS726040AL5210 4TB 7200RPM SAS 12Gb/s Enterprise HDD

$41.00



DELL 2TB Enterprise HDD (7200RPM, 3.5

DELL 2TB Enterprise HDD (7200RPM, 3.5", SATA III, 128MB Cache) HUS722T2TALA600

$49.95



Seagate Exos ST2000NX0253 HDD 2TB SATA 7.2K 2.5

Seagate Exos ST2000NX0253 HDD 2TB SATA 7.2K 2.5" 512b/s

$55.00



Lot of 2 HP 4TB / 128MB SATA 7.2K RPM 3.5

Lot of 2 HP 4TB / 128MB SATA 7.2K RPM 3.5" Hard Drive MB4000GCWDC /ST4000NM0033

$125.00



Dell ST6000NM0034 1HT27Z-150 NWCCG 6TB SAS 3.5 7.2K ENTERPRISE SERVER DRIVE picture

Dell ST6000NM0034 1HT27Z-150 NWCCG 6TB SAS 3.5 7.2K ENTERPRISE SERVER DRIVE

$68.99



Seagate 2.5

Seagate 2.5" Barracuda 1TB SATA III 6Gbps HDD 2F110A-500

$19.99



Western Digital 1TB 3.5

Western Digital 1TB 3.5" SATA III 7200RPM Desktop Hard Drive

$34.99



Toshiba DT01ACA100 1 TB 3.5

Toshiba DT01ACA100 1 TB 3.5" SATA III 3.5 in Desktop Hard Drive

$24.99