Knoppix on Mac

[cselkirk]

I'm not disputing the possibility but rather pointing out the unnecessary headaches and extra efforts needed for a ppc installation. The bottom line cselkirk is that it just isn't worth the trouble- not on a piece of ppc. Not when you can buy twice the machince in an x86 flavor for half the money. ;) And that's a fact jack.

I fail to see the point your trying to make .. first you make a statement about RPM, and state your pleasure at having something more to your liking (knoppix) available for ppc, then a statment to the effect that Debian/Gentoo are not suitable for 'installation' on some 233mhz blah, and now ppc simply isn't worth the trouble and you could buy twice the machine at half the price.

[rickenbacherus]

I fail to see the point your trying to make .. first you make a statement about RPM, and state your pleasure at having something more to your liking (knoppix) available for ppc, then a statment to the effect that Debian/Gentoo are not suitable for 'installation' on some 233mhz blah, and now ppc simply isn't worth the trouble and you could buy twice the machine at half the price.

Well keep trying and you'll understand- you're almost caught up with the rest of us. As soon as I get a chance I'll use your directions for booting MIB on this old box- hopefully it works as well as I'd like it to. If not- I guess it collects dust and takes up space.

[fleny68]

Hello,

I have created a project on savannah for the Knoppix-MiB: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/k-mib/

with a public mailing list for the ppc version.

I would be happy to know if you really get this version running on oldworld machines with bootx.

[kayD]

a warm hello 2 evry1!
i am what you would call a newbie,
linux on mac is a very very rare thing in india where i am from,and there is no way of getting knoppixppc here.i can't even imagine downloading it since i don't have fast net connection.So, was just wondering if anyone would donate me a live cd.i have a G4 (533Mhz)with 17" monitor, Nvdia 32mb graphis card,i know it is a bit much to ask for the very first time i join the forum.but it would be great to help in whatever way i can in return.my computer is open for experimentation.
ANYBODY willing to HELP me out.
thanx for reading.

[cselkirk]

was just wondering if anyone would donate me a live cd.

Sure, pm me your email address/postal address and I will send you a number of CD's for PowerPC (Knoppix-MiB, Gentoo Linux, others).

You know of Sarai? .. If you are in Delhi they would be a good resource for Linux/OSS/Free Software

[kayD]

thanx a ton cselkirk!
yes i have heard of sarai,i know about them and the kind of good work they are upto,i checked their website ,but i didn't find anyting for ppc ,atleast it wasn't listed,but i will post a message there and wait.
[email protected]
that's my mail id.
you can send them to me @
kapil das,
c/o I.S.S.T ,
UG Floor,Core 6A ,
India Habitat Centre,
Lodhi Road,
New Delhi-110 003,
INDIA.


ps: thanx for the help, i really appreciate,if it is not asking for too much can you tell places where i can read up on linux on ppc.i have been through ydl,and gentoo,anything more.
thanks again.hope to hear from you.
anything you need from here?

[walter_f]

kayD,

some URLs regarding Linux on PPC:

penguinppc.org - Linux for PowerPC
http://penguinppc.org/intro.shtml

linuxppc-user Mail List Archives
http://lists.linuxppc.org/linuxppc-user/

penguinppc.org - Old World vs. New World
http://penguinppc.org/projects/hw/pmac.shtml

Linux on PowerPC FAQ-O-Matic
http://lppcfom.sourceforge.net/fom-serve/cache/1.html

BootX, miboot, and yaboot
http://lists.linuxppc.org/linuxppc-u.../msg00676.html

Yaboot and ybin (Ethan Benson)
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/yaboot/

Open Firmware (OF) - An introduction for users
http://www.netneurotic.net/mac/openfirmware.html

Debian GNU/Linux - PowerPC
http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/

Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 -- Installation Manual PPC
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install

Debian - PowerPC mailing list archives
http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/

mini-howto for d-i on powerpc
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/.../msg00221.html

alpha version of knoppix MiB ppc
http://lists.debian.org/debian-power.../msg00620.html

Ben's PPC Linux Page (PowerMac kernels by Benjamin Herrenschmidt, with some additional links)
http://penguinppc.org/~benh/

HFS for Linux
http://www-sccm.Stanford.EDU/~hargrove/HFS/

As to commercial distributions, there is also a PPC version by Mandrake:
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppc.php3

Best regards,

Walter.

[kayD]

thanks walter
i will look the url's.
hey cselkirk where are you.please confirm that you got my address.
i downloaded knoppix but my G4 doen't boot off the cd somehow.any tips.

[cselkirk]

hey cselkirk where are you.please confirm that you got my address.i downloaded knoppix but my G4 doen't boot off the cd somehow.any tips.

This is the begining of the new term and so I have been particularly busy (setting up LDAP was particularly time consuming). Surfice to say I haven't been doing too much forum reading.

The CD's were burn't yesterday, but won't reach the mail room until monday (it's located in a seperate building and I avoid going there if I can avoid it), our project co-ordinator informs me she will be going to the mail room monday. The package is there in the out tray so you should expect it, i imagine, within a week or so.

As far as the knoppix CD goes (Linuxtag or MiB?) you might try passing "xserver=fbdev" as hardware detect will not correctly set up for Radeon video cards. Time doesn't permit a longer reply, sorry ..

best .. cal

[kayD]

for csel
thanks for getting back csel. i completely understand you being busy.take it easy.thanks for the help so far.i really appreciate it.you take care,i post when i get the cds.
thanks for the tips.
cheers,
kayd